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Rose's Favorite Flaky & Tender Pie Crust

INGREDIENTS

MEASUREMENTS

WEIGHT

cold

volume

ounces

grams

frozen unsalted butter, 1/2 inch cubes

8 tablespoons

4 ounces

113 grams

bleached all purpose flour, preferably Wondra

1-1/3 cups, sifted into the cup

6.5 ounces

184 grams

sea salt

1/8 teaspoon

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baking powder (preferably Rumford or another non-aluminum variety)

1/8 teaspoon

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-

cream cheese, cut into 4 pieces and chilled

1-3 ounce package

3 ounces

85 grams

heavy cream

2 tablespoons

-

-

cider vinegar

2 teaspoons

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Food Processor Method

1) Process flour, salt, and baking powder to blend.
2) Add cream cheese and process until coarse.
3) Add butter cubes and pulse until peanut size.
4) Add cream and vinegar and pulse until butter is the size of small peas.
5) Scrape dough onto a lightly floured work surface. Use latex gloves or cover hands with plastic bags and press dough until it holds together in one smooth flat disc.
6) Wrap, and refrigerate 45 minutes before rolling.

Note: Baking powder containing aluminum has a bitter flavor. Most health food stores and many supermarkets carry the calcium variety.You can eliminate the baking powder and double the salt but the crust will be less tender.

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At the time Julia's recipe was published, pastry flour probably wasn't as available as it is today. She obviously would have been able to get a hold of it, but home bakers probably couldn't - I'll bet they designed the recipe around the availability of ingredients most home bakers could get at the time.

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Maureen, yes, plus now you can watch it on youtube. Rose goes in extent how to achieve a flaky and tender pie crust. It isn't just a matter of what ingredients go in, but also about preventing the butter from getting warm or soft, zero to minimal kneading which also means running the food processor for only seconds and only till the mix appears crumbly and prior to forming a dough ball. I use gold medal bleached all purpose flour or a mix with wondra flour.

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Quick question. I have an order that calls for pate brisee. I used to use Julia Child's recipe, which calls for shortening. She said American all purpose flour made all butter crusts tough. If I use Rose's recipe from P&PB -- pastry flour and all butter -- will I be delivering on my promise to make pate brisee?

Thank you!

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I have baked with both gas and electric ovens and don't really have a preference.

Our fairly-new stove has an electric oven with convection option. We use the convection for some types of bread and for roasting chickens and turkeys. It makes for a very brown crust which is good for some things and not for others.

Do you do a lot of broiling? We had an old gas oven where you had to broil by pulling out the drawer below the oven. It was a pain to use. I like electric broiling better but the truth is, I hardly ever broil things anyway.

So, my advice is to think about what sort of baking you do, and what you might want. We do love having an oven where you can use it as conventional or convection.

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welcome to the blog! my preference is a gas oven because gas is less expensive than electricity. however, you need exhaust to outdoors ventilation.

electric is usually more even baking.

a must to have convection on either above, but plus if you can turn convection off as needed. not all things bake better with convection.

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Hi,

I have never posted before but I have enjoyed reading your posts. Y'all sound like you so enjoy baking and so do I.

Is there anyone out there that could tell me which is better for baked goods, a gas oven, electric oven or a convection oven. I am planning to buy a new stove and would like to get whichever is best for baking.

Thanks for any help you might offer.

Marylouise

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Dan, thanks for sharing these news!

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thank you for this great new year's gift-- I had no idea!

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Just felt everyone should know that Rose's flaky cream cheese pie crust was the most viewed recipe on Washington Post this year. Her Perfect Peach Pie was second. Woohoo Rose!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/30/AR2008123000611.html?sub=AR

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Angus, I usually blind-bake on the bottom rack with a round pizza stone on the rack. (Put the stone in before you preheat the oven.) It seems to work well enough. I don't know if the bottom of the oven would work better or not.

I find that if you are partially blind-baking the crust and then baking again when you add the filling, it is a very good idea to cover the crust with foil or a pie shield. It will get too brown otherwise.

I haven't made a pie with an unbaked filling so I can't say what you should do in that case.

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1. Is it better to blind bake on the base of an oven, or on the lowest shelf?
2. Should a pie shield be used when baking blind?

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I made two of the Peach Galettes yesterday and was so happy with the results. Right now I have a white sheet cake baking. I am using a recipe from the "Confetti cake book". I made a sheet cake yesterday and plan on filling both cakes with homemade strawberry butter-cream and then carving cakes to look like a book for a Baptism tomorrow at church. I also will be making a plum tart and chicken and noodles. I just love your recipes and you make it so easy to turn out delicious food. Thanks so much.

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I had a (probably insignificant to everyone else! but) major revelation to me today when I read p. 18 of Rose's Pie and Pastry Bible. Ever since I first attempted to blind-bake a pie crust, I've been baffled by how to avoid the parchment sinking into the pastry around the edges during pre-baking. And there, in a small, line drawing on p. 18, was my answer. Until now, I've always cut a circle of parchment the exact size of the base of the pie dish and placed that onto my pastry before weighting it with dried peas. No wonder I always end up having to dig out the lining from under the base rim of the crust when the pastry has risen and browned! Instead, the diagram on p. 18 shows very clearly how to pleat the parchment lining so that it rises up the sides, even above the containing pie crust walls. Tomorrow, we're having bangers and mash. The day after, I'm planning to make a homity pie with the potato leftovers ... inc. blind-baking. I'll let you know how it goes!

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OR you can buy a set of letter cutters and cut out the letters from the leftover dough! (my father, by the way, said i should skip the candle.)
BIG NEWS for pie lovers: the cherry pie reheated PERFECTLY even two days later: i cut two pieces and then set them on non-stick foil though regular probably would be fine. i snuggled the foil around them to support them and keep the cherry filling from drying and baked them in a preheated 400F oven for 10 minutes. despite the humidity the recrisped--even the lattice!

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Bill, you can roll a thin snake of leftover dough and "write" happy birthday on the crust before baking.

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Rose:
I just love love love this pie crust. My best friend is having her 49th birthday party on Sunday. This is a gal who LOVES pie, and is ho hum about cake. (She admits that the cakes I make from your recipies are the best she's had, but she still much prefers pie). So I'm going to bake a Birthday Pie for the party...why not? You can stick a candle in it...and still sing the song! She loves apple pie, it is her favorite dessert. So I will be baking your apple pie for her party, I will pipe Happy Birthday Denise on top, and will be making the vanilla icecream recipe you have in the cake bible to go with it. It is soooo delicious. I've made it twice before and it disappears as fast as I can make it (Mostly into my mouth). thanks again for your marvelous recipies.

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to prevent drying and other odors and butter and chocolate are excellent absorbers and you don't want them to taste like garlic!

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Quick question, what is the purpose of covering with plastic wrap? Is it just to prevent the dough from drying out? Or is it to increase the temperature of the dough?

When I roll pizza dough, I do the same when it becomes strechy, to relax it. Latelly, I haven't been covering it with plastic wrap, specially during the humid days.

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foil doesn't allow the pastry to breathe which is why i recommend parchment. also peas and beans smell dreadful when baking. rice on the other hand absorbs a little of the butter from the crust (through the parchment, browns lightly, and is perfect for pilaf!

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and if the sides are still shrinking and falling try this: (always covered with plastic wrap when resting/chilling) frig 1 hour, freezer 30 minutes. but the suggestions below are also very valid--don't stretch the dough--ease it in. don't over work the dough so it's too stretchy, etc etc.

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Thanks so much Hector - keep them coming.

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and here is how Rose rolls the crust:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5691625893999868754&hl=en

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Erika:

1- never stretch/pull when rolling, the dough will stretch back when baking.

2- rest the dough before and after rolling, so it relaxes.

3- always blind bake with a coffee filter plus rice.

Here is how Rose makes the dough:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4847696856338055321&hl=en

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Yes, 10-15 minutes it not nearly enough resting time.

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The subject of pre-baking was recently discussed somewhere on the blog... Rose suggests blind baking with the use of a paper coffee filter filled with uncooked rice (the toasted rice can be cooked as usual afterwards - Rose says it has a lovely flavor).

Erika - when rolling, are you fighting to keep the dough from shrinking as you roll it out? If so, you need to let it rest longer. Be sure to push the dough down into the corners of the pie/tart pan too, and I like to leave a bit of extra crust around the top edge of the pan.

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Do you use baking beans? I usually line with foil and fill the cavity with dried peas/beans to add weight and to hold the foil in place, i don't have a problem with falling sides.

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I have tried blind baking several times and always end up with the same problem - The sides end up shrinking down. What am I doing wrong ? I always roll, prick and then let sit in the fridge for 10-15 minutes. Remove, line with foil and bake.

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YES, I realized that folding the sides under, making it double thickness, makes the best looking pie/tart edges.

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brenda, next time use the pie shield right from the beginning. also be sure to have a double thickness of dough on the rim, i.e. fold it under and press it down. if too thin it will bake too much faster than the rest of the pie. i think you'll be much happer with it this way.

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I forgot to leave my name about the blog with the hard rim. Please help if you can.