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Silicone Baking Pans

Feb 07, 2006 | From the kitchen of Rose

JEAN QUESTION

Dear Rose,

I have an older copy of your "The Cake Bible" that was written before
the advent and proliferation of the silicon baking pans. In general,
what changes to the baking process should I consider if I use these pans?

Thanks,

ROSE REPLY

There are actually very few changes necessary. It is important to realize, however, that no substance on earth that I know of is 100% non-stick. Because silicone happens to be the most nonstick substance, if it is prepared properly (with oil and flour) it will release the cake perfectly with no crust stuck to the pan.

It is best to allow the cake to cool in the pan on a rack until warm or room temperature before unmolding it.

Deep fluted tube pans, as they are now, do not conduct the heat well to the center of the cake and may require as long as 20 minutes extra baking. But this is a relatively new technology and is continuing to evolve. For small cakes and the standard 9 x 2 inch cake I feel silicone has no equal. The cakes rise more evenly, with no need to wrap the sides of the pans with cake strips, and the texture is lighter and more even though the actual height of the cake is slightly lower.

Read about my association with Lékué Silicone pans and bakeware from Spain.

Comments

rose Levy Beranbaum
rose Levy Beranbaum in reply to comment from wendy
02/13/2010 03:49 PM

bake them on a lower oven rack when using the silicone but don't change the temperature or the tops will overbake!

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wendy
wendy
02/13/2010 03:31 PM

I just baked a batch of cookies unfortunately most of the cookies was done. the bottoms were not is this because they are silicone do they have to be cooked at a different temperature or time please help.

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rose Levy Beranbaum
rose Levy Beranbaum
12/10/2009 11:09 AM

you used too deep a pan. the standard is 2" and as you saw 3" high bakes differently.

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Ruth
Ruth
12/10/2009 10:35 AM

I used a standard cake pan (a little deeper than the metal ones (about 3"). I poured in my cake mix to about 2/3 full. 1) it took at least 30 minutes longer to cook (total about 60 min) 2) It isn't even (rather rounded??) on the top and it cracked in several places across the top.

I noticed that the sides were 'bulging' outward during the baking but there wasn't much I could do about it. I had a cookie sheet under the cake pan. I haven't turned it out yet. It's in the freezer. I need to decorate it and I'm a little worried! What did I do wrong??

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
10/03/2009 03:07 PM

you're right--i wouldn't want to invert a quiche either. i suppose you could peel back one edge and slip a broad spatula under it and slide it out but isn't it easier to use a quiche pan with removable bottom such as gobel non-stick?!

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
09/01/2009 10:43 PM

i'd recommend the lekue muffin pans (the set of 6).

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K
K
09/01/2009 08:16 PM

Since you have experience w/ chemicals. What pans would you recommend? I have children and bake alot. Thanx

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Bobbie Berger
Bobbie Berger
08/28/2009 07:28 PM

Surprisingly, I tried a pineapple upside down cake in a silicone tube and it worked!!

BB

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Anonymous
08/27/2009 03:22 PM

I would like to know how to remove a quiche from a fluted probakeflex pan. The instructions says to invert pan, but you cannot invert a quiche without breaking up the crust.

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
08/16/2009 02:09 PM

i would wait for my upcoming book as i go into great detail about this type of pan. there is only one cake that i do in a silicone bundt type pan. though i love the small silicone pans such as muffin pans and financier pans i am not generally pelased with the deep tube pans. they take at least 20 minutes longer to bake and the interior crumb is not even. it is necessary to place them on a rack for air circulation and then on a sheet pan as if you lift them out of the oven by grasping the sides the cake will probably crack. the cake must cool completely in the pan to unmold well. by the way, kaiser now makes a metal fluted tube pan that is lined with silicone which works very well.

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Boaz
Boaz
08/16/2009 12:15 AM

I have a Kaiser bakeware classic bundt pan. I use it quite a bit, but somehow it developed brown spots that I cannot remove. I think they are rust, although I don't understand how that had happened. Unless I can clean them somehow (and I tried several stain removers and other cleaning equipment to no avail), I think it's high time I replace it.
My question is whether I should stick with metal and buy a metal bundt pan, or should I buy a silicone one? The silicone ones come in more designs here. I should mention that the silicone bundt pans I am considering have an outside plastic band to help them hold their shape and are a terra-cotta color.

Thanks!

Boaz

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
08/12/2009 01:35 PM

i have several cakes in fancy molds in the upcoming book. it's not so much a question of the type of cake as how much to fill it--about 2/3 full--definitely no more than 3/4!

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Bobbie Berger
Bobbie Berger
08/11/2009 09:05 PM

Hi! I tried a banana cake in a fancy cake mold. what a disaster!! I probably put too much in the pan, but it got all over my oven! Even my self-clean didn't work very well.

What kind of cake would you recommend for the fancy cake molds if yellow cakes don't seem to work well?

Bobbie

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bdash
bdash
07/08/2009 10:25 PM

I have made many Demarle brand purchases, and we get a very strong odor when baking, regardless of what we bake. I paid close attention at the shows, and I don't use harsh detergents to clean them and do not cook at improper temperatures. I was hoping someone might have some suggestions for getting rid of the smell. This has been quite an investment for me.

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Susie Homemaker
Susie Homemaker
01/23/2009 02:44 PM

I bought those adorable mold that are heart shaped at Target. They came with no instructions for us other than keep from a high heat above 450. A tad weary... I used them anyways. I read comments on how unsuccessful other bakers have had with these silicon products. My cake is even, nice and firm... seemed overall to be baked and came out of the pan with ease. I guess the key was... I was making a chocolate cake and I have always sprayed and floured. It really saved my daughters Birthday cake. I am now starting to be more curious about this product. Thanks for adding information to this site.

Susie-homemaker

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Celeste Friese
Celeste Friese
11/20/2008 04:55 PM

There is no comparison to the Flexipan and any other silicone products on the market. If you go to http://www.demarle.com/en/la-societe/competences.html you will see the certifications proving that Demarle has no carcinogens and is perfectly safe and leaves NO aftertaste or health concerns. They also have a kosher certificate posted on the demarleathome.com website for those who are interested. If you haven't tried Demarle, the ORIGINAL proprietor, you may run into some of the problems listed on your blog. Hopefully that website for Demarle Magazine, a website for professional chefs around the world, should clear up this matter. I highly doubt that chefs who stake their whole reputation on taste would use anything that would compromise taste. I see chefs on the Food Network use these molds, silpats, roul pats on just about every Food Network Challenge. If it was an unsafe product wouldn't the professionals stop using it? They have nothing to gain as a personal endorsement as it has been purchased by professional chefs for many many years before it became a fad that cheaper silicone companies tried to copy. The fad would have long since been abandoned.Hope this helps!

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Patrincia
Patrincia
10/02/2008 07:24 AM

Rose is out of town, but I'll attempt to answer your question. If your tops of your cupcakes are getting sticky, they are absorbing moisture... can happen even when the air is dry. Are you cooling your cupcakes inside a container of some sort, or are they left on the counter over night?

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mei
mei
10/02/2008 06:26 AM

Hi Rose, i have the same problem too. i am from Australia, climate is dry. i usually bake in the evenings. after leaving my cakes overnight to cool overnighte the cakes get moist and a little sticky on the top. hope you can advise.

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Donnie
Donnie
09/16/2008 11:15 PM

Nope, i work in the chem field, and i know what goes into making Silicone pans. So i am an authority on them.

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Tammy
Tammy
09/15/2008 12:14 AM

you probably bought crap pans. I use these all the time and my concoctions smell and taste delicious. And stop the scare tactics...go one some other site to post your paranoia.

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Donnie
Donnie
07/28/2008 08:57 AM

You people don't realize that Silicone pans are made from Petrochems...derivatives from crude petroleum. Silicone pans, in my opinion, give off a very small amount of carcinogens during each baking or use.

Each molecule builds up in your body to increase the chances of getting cancer.

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Cheesecakery
Cheesecakery
07/26/2008 01:18 PM

We bought some of these flexipans for our business. We bake pound cakes and cheesecakes, brownies, pies, all sorts of baked goods. The cakes in the silicone stunk up our building while they were baking, and we had to throw away the results. The cakes smelled like burning rubber, and were not baked through. We have the bundt ones, and the batter weighs them down, causing the pretty scalloped edge to FLATTEN resulting in an ugly cake. I just can't see The Cheesecake factory using these. our little hometown cheesecake business knows better, now.

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amanda
amanda
04/02/2008 02:38 PM

Thanks Rose, I"m looking forward to trying both products!

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
04/02/2008 06:58 AM

yes they are the mini cake pans and are wonderful!
silicone bread pans give equal results as long as they have side supports without which the bread spreads sideways a bit. this is not a problem perse--just a different look.

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Amanda
Amanda
04/02/2008 03:39 AM

Rose,
What is your preferred loaf pan for bread baking: silicone or metal, or do they produce relatively equal results? Also, for the barcelona brownies you speak of a financier mold by lekue...is that the same as their mini cake pans? I can't find anything by them specifically called "financier". Thanks...

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
02/29/2008 05:57 AM

i love barfi! yes silicone is perfect for this. i would coat it lightly with cooking spray or oil to be sure it unmolds perfectly.

bonnie i see i didn't ever answer your question. since cakes don't rise quite as high in silicone i would fill it a little more full than usual. it may take 5 or 10 minutes longer to bake as well.

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Hema Dhanesur
Hema Dhanesur
02/29/2008 05:35 AM

Hi, I want to try moulding barfi (an indian sweetmeat) in a silicone ANGEL cake mould. The barfi is cooked on the stove, (quite sticky), and then after it's cooled a little, poured into the mould and left in the fridge to set. Will the silicone be suitable for this, and should I use oil or spray to grease the mould before use?
Thanks, HEMA

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Bonnie
Bonnie
02/12/2008 06:20 PM

A silicone heart shaped pan is my latest purchase. I wish to bake a white layer cake for V day. How high should the batter be and how long do I bake it---in Denver,CO---the mile high city? Thank you!

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Patricia
Patricia
12/23/2007 04:37 PM

I love the silicone tart pans for making the butter pecan tarts my family loves so much, but I am unable to get the pans clean. It bothers me that they "look" dirty. I have tried everything I can think of. Does anyone else have any suggestions. Thanks.

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Robyn
Robyn
11/20/2007 06:38 PM

That's funny, because I just won a bake off using my fluted bundt mold from Demarle and the judges didn't seem to have a problem with it. Other than the first use, I never notice an odor and have never had something not taste right.

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Leyla Trin
Leyla Trin
11/20/2007 06:17 PM

You are correct, Mark. I smell a strange odor EVERY TIME I bake with my Demarle molds- and the food doesn't taste the same-- a little odd. It's like the Emperor's new clothes-- no one admits it bc of the convenience.

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
11/05/2007 12:59 PM

i use the same temperature. the baking time may be a little longer but of course use the usual tests for doneness.

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Mary Hazel
Mary Hazel
11/05/2007 12:56 PM

Thank you for the info on placing the silicone pan on a rack in a sheet pan.

I am using a cake mix.

Do I lower or raise the oven temperature because this is a silicone pan and not metal?

Do I adjust the cooking time??

I am using a silicone cup cake pan that will go together to make a train shaped cake.

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
09/23/2007 09:06 AM

the ones i use brown perfectly but you can always unmold the bread when done and put it directly on the the oven rack for extra browning.

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Connie McCollough
Connie McCollough
09/23/2007 03:17 AM

I am waiting for my bread dough to rise, and was reading on how to use the two loaf pans (silicone) that I purchased at a rummage sale. The only thing that concerns me is the browning of the sides and tops of plain old white bread. Is it comparable to my trusty old metal pans? Thanks!

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Patrincia
Patrincia
09/11/2007 09:11 AM

I use silpats a lot, never had a problem with any aftertaste. Is it possible Mark's restuarant oven temp is higher than the recommended cooking temp?

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Mark
Mark
09/10/2007 10:37 PM

Sorry, Caren, but other chefs have noticed this flavor transfer when using these pans. With all due respect to Martha, perhaps certain people's palates are extra-sensitive to picking up the off flavor imparted by some silicone bakeware.

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Caren LeMark
Caren LeMark
09/10/2007 11:11 AM

Sorry Mark--I have used Flexipan molds for almost 3 years now and haven't EVER had a rubbery aftertaste. Are you cleaning your pans properly? For one thing, silicone is not rubber, it is more of a composite of glass. As a distributer of Flexipan, with many professional chefs in our business--I have never heard this complaint. The Flexipan is made of the same material as the Silpat.....and we all know that Martha Stewart is pretty darn picky!

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
09/09/2007 11:09 AM

robyn was right about not need to spray the demarle flexipan mold for baking a yellow cake. i haven't tried chocolate yet but i was astonished that no residue or crumbs were left in the mold. just as in silicone that i have used, the cakes were slightly less higher on the sides as compared with metal. another thing is that there were many slanted tunnels throughout.
bottom line, there are advantages and disadvantages to each material and you have to chose what your priorities are and make your own choices. for example, i would never use metal molds for madeleines--flexipan or silicone keep them from sticking and make unmolding a dream.
and my preferred materal for layer cakes is metal with a non-stick coating, sprayed with baker's joy, and encircled with my silicone cake strips.

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Robyn
Robyn
09/09/2007 09:23 AM

If a restaurant is using them, they aren't going to be using something that makes their meal taste rubbery. Who would eat it? And Subway and the Cheesecake Factory use Flexipan along with tons of others. If you do have a rubbery taste, you should contact the rep who sold them to you. The only way to buy these is through an independent rep or the Demarle corporate company that sells only for commercial use.

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Mark
Mark
09/09/2007 08:15 AM

The Flexipans I have are manufactured for restaurant use. I know that these pans do not have rubber in them, but each time I have used them I note a chemical aftertaste in the baked product, which to me tastes faintly rubbery. As I said, other chefs have noted the same with these pans.

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Robyn
Robyn
09/09/2007 08:07 AM

I became a rep for Demarle at Home only AFTER using their Flexipans and Silpats. Once I saw what they did, I got rid of every P Chef stone I had AND my glass too. I have used them exclusively in my cooking since June and have not once tasted anything that tasted rubbery. And I'm not just saying that because I'm a rep. If you are using true Demarle at Home products, and not the cheap ones you find in stores, you will not taste anything rubbery. They are made of silicone and glass. Not rubber. As for Rose's questions, the whole mold is made of silicone and beaded glass. You do not have to use any kind of spray, oil or grease to make these pans release.

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Mark
Mark
09/09/2007 07:53 AM

I have tried baking cakes in Flexipans and found that a chocolate torte baked in it had an unmistakable taste of something rubbery. I repeated the test, and noted the rubbery aftertaste in the cake. I'm not the only one who has noted this with Flexipans; this issue was also noted by others on eGullet.

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
08/11/2007 10:09 AM

incidentally, i have recommended silpat, silpain, and roulpat and though ads say you can roll dough without sticking on roulpat this is untrue unless you add flour.
metal pans with nonstick coating claim that cakes will not stick. this is true but only if you add grease and flour.
nonstick substances are terrific if prepared properly. if not i have yet to find a single one that releases adequately.

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
08/11/2007 10:06 AM

are you saying that the outside surface, i.e. the surface that comes into contact with the batter, is a combination of siliconeo and beaded glass or that the beaded glass is in the interior and only the silicone component touches the batter?

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Robyn Easlick
Robyn Easlick
08/11/2007 05:13 AM

I have to say you are wrong too. I am an independent rep for Demarle at Home, the makers of Silpat and Flexipan. These are 100% non stick! You can bake any cake in them and flip them out, NO Stick! I can send you one if you would like to see for yourself. They are made of silicone and beaded glass. These are the real deal.

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
07/23/2007 08:55 PM

you're wrong. flexipan is an excellent product but if you try to bake a cake in it without preparing it with grease and flour of baker's joy it will stick. that's the nature of silicone. there is no such thing as 100% non-stick anything.

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Caren LeMark
Caren LeMark
07/23/2007 08:09 PM

Rose,
Your previous comment about Flexipan (maker of the Silpat) is that it needs flour or oil--this is untrue on both counts. The mold starts with woven glass (like a screen door) and is sprayed with 3 layers 100% food grade silicone, giving it a slick finish. Any and all flour would stick to the cake, not the mold. Flexipan has won the number one spot repeatedly at Europain and as the most innovative baking product in the world. There is not another product on the market that compares. See more at www.demarleathome.com--dare to be wowed!

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Florian
Florian
07/20/2007 09:18 AM

Hi Rose,

are silicon tartlet pans as good as or better than the nonstick steel ones?

Thanks
Florian

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
05/14/2007 07:34 AM

great tip!

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Patrincia
Patrincia
05/14/2007 07:32 AM

Hmmmmm - If silicone can absorb odors, you might want to try scrubbing with a baking soda paste before trying the Softscrub - it works like a dream and it's natural vs. chemical. I keep a shaker of baking soda right at my sink and use it on all my cookware and baking pans - friends always comment on how "new" looking my stuff stays.

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
05/14/2007 05:22 AM

sorry, then don't have experience with baking spray in europe. you might want to try soft-scrub and be sure to wipe off excess in future as that seems to work on mine.

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
05/11/2007 04:41 PM

i always wipe off the spray before baking so not sure if once it's baked on it will be possible to clean it. i have contacted my friends at lékué and will post a response after i hear from them.

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Naomi
Naomi
05/10/2007 05:08 PM

Rose,

I have a question that I've not seen posted yet and hope you can help. I have several silicon pans and absolutely love them. However I've noticed that even after washing, the cooking spray has begun to build up around the outer lips and I'm finding it very difficult to remove it all. Any suggestions?

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Marilyn
Marilyn
05/04/2007 07:26 PM

Great, I'll get it in the mail within the next couple of days. Keep in mind that the opening of the show is missing.

How fitting that you are a knitter as well. It just gives me more to admire about you. By the way, I knit for an organization called Project Linus (www.projectlinus.org) which provides hand made blankets (knitted, crocheted or quilted) to children who are ill, traumatized or otherwise in need. Just making a plug to anyone who has free time to make a gift of love for a child. The blankets are distributed locally, so that you know your are contributing to your own community. It's easy to knit, crochet or quilt while waiting for bread to rise.

Enough from me. Take care.

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
05/04/2007 06:46 PM

thanks--it will be great to see the context. by the way--i also am a knitter.

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Marilyn
Marilyn
05/04/2007 05:36 PM

The whole show was about showers of various kinds and though there was a segment about quilted fondant and one about making frosting pansies, there were also ones on shower favors and invitations. Your demonstration was the highlight, in my opinion. I don't usually watch this particular show, but I was in a time crunch to finish knitting and it seemed opportune at the time. Why don't I just mail you the tape and you can decide for yourself?

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
05/04/2007 05:25 PM

that's so generous of you marilyn! actually i do have a copy of my show but if you think there are other things on it worth seeing i'd be interested, i.e. it sounds like my segment was part of a group.
my husband made me a mini martini and the ice is soothing my throat but my nose is closing up again. i thought only red wine would do that.

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Marilyn
Marilyn
05/04/2007 05:18 PM

Rose, How appropos that you should mention PBS. About 3 weeks ago (while you were away on your European jaunt) I sat down to finish knitting my Project Linus baby blanket and watch the cooking shows on KTEH in San Jose. As they were describing the segments on "Bake, Decorate, Celebrate", I nearly dropped a stitch when your name was announced. I quickly jumped up and stuck a tape in the VCR and managed to record you making your Favorite Yellow Cake. Need I mention that that was the best part of the show!!

Anyway, I wonder if you already have a copy of this show or would you like me to send this one to you? I don't know if you remember, but I was the one who sent you the Johnson and Wales tape a few weeks ago. I realize that this tape isn't quite complete since I missed the first few minutes of the show, but it does contain the most important part. Let me know if you want me to send it and I will stick it in the mail.

I hope you are feeling better soon. What you need is some good old Jewish Penicillin!! Take care.

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
05/04/2007 02:05 PM

thank you jodie! i needed cheering up. i think head colds have special viruses that attack one's sense of humor along with general well-being!
...so looks like it wasn't entirely inappropriate that i called my pbs show "baking magic."

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Jodie
Jodie
05/04/2007 12:40 PM

Rose,
I made your chiffon cake for my husband's birthday, and you were right about using a tube pan. It worked beautifully and was shockingly high. I must thank you for your easy-to-follow recipes that seem to always work. I had never made a layer cake before, but I wanted to make a chocolate cake and decorate it like a construction secene for my son's second birthday. I made the American chocolate butter cake with chocolate ganache frosting (I added the butter)from the Cake Bible, and it was perfect--sturdy enough to hold a frosting road, bulldozers, candy corn pylons, chocolate rock cany boulders, and Oreo cookie piles of dirt. My son was thrilled. And I was pretty impressed with myself. I remember the chocolate cakes from my childhood sliding all over the place and being held together by toothpicks. Your recipes are magic!
Thanks!
Jodie

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
05/04/2007 08:34 AM

i'm sorry to contradict you but this is absolutely untrue. there is no mold or substance that is 100% non-stick and for almost all cakes it is necessary to prepare the pan with grease and flour. i have worked extensively with 100% pure platinum silicone and i can assure you this is t rue. i have also worked with flexipan that is NOT 100% silicone--only the surface. the interior consists of fiber glass. it's a great product but because of the fiber glass you can't cut it.

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Caren LeMark
Caren LeMark
05/03/2007 10:26 PM

Actually there is a product that is 100% non-stick, and it is a Flexipan, made by Demarle, maker of the Silpat. Flexipan molds don't need any oil or flour and brown beautifully--this is because they are made with woven glass, covered with 100% Silicone. Also, Silicone is inert--completely safe. It is all the rage and new on the residential scale, but Flexipan has been used for 2 decades worldwide in commercial kitchens. Check it out.

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d'neil
d'neil
04/11/2007 01:49 PM

I want instant information on cakes

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Patrincia
Patrincia
04/11/2007 01:33 PM

Elizabeth - How about storing your angel food cakes uncovered in the fridge?

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
04/11/2007 09:13 AM

unless you're in a very humid climate, in which case they will probably get sticky no matter what--allow them to sit uncovered several hours after cooling and unmolding until they are no longer tacky or sticky to the touch.

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Elizabeth
Elizabeth
04/11/2007 08:15 AM

I enjoy making angel food cakes but after one day they get "wet". I have tried putting it in a tupperware cake keeper,and wrapping it in wax paper and tinfoil...still gets wet, any suggestions? Thanks so much!

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
04/10/2007 08:30 PM

unfortunately lékué is not going to produce the 9 x 2 pan.
regarding cooking savory things such as meat recipes in silicone, the answer is yes but i would keep those pans separate unless there is no odor. silicone often retains the aroma of what is cooked or baked in it.

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Patrincia
Patrincia
04/05/2007 05:21 PM

Oops, I tried to correct my spelling error above (meet/meat), but accidentally posted the same message twice ...sorry.

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Patrincia
Patrincia
04/05/2007 05:16 PM

Mary - I'm not an expert, but I can't see why you wouldn't be able to cook meat in the silicone pans. I use my silpats (silicone sheet liners) for cooking everything from meatloaf to caramel. I believe most of the kitchen silicone items are heatproof up to 500 degrees, and they don't absorb odors. Just be sure to support a cake pan with a sheet pan if you find it's too floppy to keep it's shape once it's filled.

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Patrincia
Patrincia
04/05/2007 05:15 PM

Mary - I'm not an expert, but I can't see why you wouldn't be able to cook meet in the silicone pans. I use my silpats (silicone sheet liners) for cooking everything from meatloaf to caramel. I believe most of the kitchen silicone items are heatproof up to 500 degrees, and they don't absorb odors. Just be sure to support a cake pan with a sheet pan if you find it's too floppy to keep it's shape once it's filled.

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Mark
Mark
04/05/2007 04:38 PM

Rose, do you know if Leuke has produced a 9" x 2" round pan yet? I can find the 9.5", but that's the wrong size for most US-based recipes.

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mary
mary
04/04/2007 12:33 PM

Can you cook meat in these and such or are they strictly for baking?

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
12/10/2006 09:53 AM

which pan?
what brand?
what recipe?

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Debbie Chips - NJ
Debbie Chips - NJ
12/10/2006 09:41 AM

I have a problem with cooking time ?
any suggestions on how to time w/
the silicone pans..
cake was very wet inside and
to be honest I was very disappointed w/ the product.
pls help me !

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
12/03/2006 04:23 PM

yes--great use of silicone!

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jesse
jesse
12/03/2006 03:59 PM

I am making hard candy that you cook to hard crack. Can I pour this into your silicone cups?

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
06/11/2006 08:57 AM

silicone is such a new technology there is much still not understood. also, not all brands are created equal! sounds to me like you may be using a pan other than the lekue and this could explain why it's baking faster. lekue is 100% pure platinum silicone. this silicone bakes slightly more slowly in smaller size pans and more significantly slowly in the large tube pan which is why i recommend putting it on the rack and pan just for that pan and not using it for yellow cake. as for layer cames, i have found that silicone bakes more evenly making it unnecessary to use the wet cake strips to wrap around the pans. the cakes will not rise quite as high in silicone but they will be even. interestingly we've found from blind taste tests that the texture is actually lighter and the flavor better. but every manufacturer is jumping on the silicone band wagon bc it's such an exciting new technology and not every type or shape works better. for example, deep pans in general don't work well for many types of cakes including in metal. but deep metal pans with center tubes conduct the heat to the center.
i hope this helps.

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W Owens
W Owens
06/11/2006 07:46 AM

Thank you for your help. I did read what you wrote. Did you read what I wrote! I didn't oil and flour the pan the first time, however i did the second time. I used a oil and flour spray (baking spray) that I have had much success with my non silicon pans. I didn't try putting the pan on a rack and then on the sheet pan as you suggested, because none of these suggestions were with the instructions for the pan I purchased. Also, the instructions didn't indicate that the cake might cook slower. As a matter of fact the cake cooked faster. This is why I asked the question. Now that I have gotten the answer as to what I was doing wrong I will try this. I also have printed out your booklet that you posted. Thanks again!

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
06/10/2006 11:05 AM

you're not reading what i wrote! go to the top posting where i explain that silicone is wonderful IF you prepare it properly with OIL & FLOUR. you say you didn't oil the pan at all. use an oil and flour spray.and read the booklet i posted on this blog. to reiterate: cakes bake a little more slowly in silicone. here is sme important new information: if using a fluted tube pan, place it on a rack and then on a sheet pan and set it on a rack in the oven toward the what bottom. this way it will conducted more evenly. the reason you put the rack on the sheet pan is so you can remove it and allow the cake to cool completely before unmolding it without putting any pressure on the sides of the pan. this will prevent cracking. it works wonderfully for chocolate cake resulting in extra moistness. yellow cakes, however, don't fare well in the deep fluted tube pan.

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W Owens
W Owens
06/10/2006 08:39 AM

Hi. I am having a terrible time with these new silicon pans. I have made two pound cakes with these pans and one stuck to the pan and was burnt on the sides. The other was not done in the middle. I tried not greasing the pan with the first and using baking spray with the second. I'm not sure how long to cook my cake. Do I cook the same as if I were using a non silicon pan. What am I doing wrong?

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
06/06/2006 09:47 PM

thank you. now i'll be able to list this in my upcoming book! i'm a great believer in these strips. as i'm sure you know!!!

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M. Scott Ryan
M. Scott Ryan
06/06/2006 12:55 PM

Hi. Just a note to let you know our web-site, www.magi-cake.com is up and running. Now you can purchase the original, American-made MAGI-CAKE STRIPS, direct from the manufacturer. Thank You, Scott

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
05/13/2006 11:29 PM

i'm glad you had one experience of perfectly baked cakes even though it wasn't in the silicone. i don't believe the type of material used would affect the top surface of the pan so this is very odd. it is most likely the mixing that was at fault.

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Daphne
Daphne
05/09/2006 03:03 AM

So I bought 2 silicone 20cm (about 8"x2") round pans with shiny interiors, they're a European make, and tried the All-Occasion Downy yellow cake twice.

The first time it was really stodgy and didn't rise, I figured it might be old baking powder and changed it. The second time I forgot to add the sugar till halfway through the creaming so of course the result was also good for a doorstop.

HOWEVER this brings me to my real point: both times the tops of the cakes stayed pale, and instead of browning evenly over the top, developed random brown spots and a surface that looked like lots of worms tunnelling under it. (wish I had taken pictures)

The third time I followed all instructions very carefully, baked them up in my regular metal pans with Magi-cake strips and had beautifully (and evenly )risen, nicely browned cakes.

So the question is, even though I did make mistakes with the batter, will silicone pans give nicely browned cakes at least on the surface if not the sides, or are the brown spots and tunnelled surface normal?

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
04/22/2006 11:23 AM

daphne, you made a very important point about the size of the std layer cake pan in silicone. the reason some companies make 9.5 is bc they are producing these pans for the european market and it is translated from the metric. a half inch makes quite a significant difference in the volume of the pan and the cakes will indeed be lower and take less long to bake. i am confident that the lekue company, whose silicone bakeware i am endorsing, will soon produce the std 9 x 2 inch pan!
they do not produce a silicone angel food cake pan as they do not work well either for angel food cake or chiffon cake. i have tested those of other manufacturers and in the case of the angel food, when hung upside down to cool (which is absolutely necessary for good volume) the center tube thrusts up and distorts what will become the top of the cake.
since as i pointed out no substance on earth is 100% non-stick, the angel food does stick to the pan but since the pan is flexible it can be peeled away from the sides of the cake.
the chiffon cake did not have the usual volume and had the same problem as the angel food cake.
the silicone angel food pan, however, would be terrific for the monkey bread in my bread book (the bread bible). it would be superior to metal since it would keep the sides from getting too dark.

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Daphne
Daphne
04/21/2006 02:03 AM

Hello Rose

As a VERY novice baker who enjoys collecting good baking books, I've loved reading your Cake and Pie & Pastry Bibles, am looking forward to getting your Bread Bible and the latest book you're working on!

A couple of questions about silicon cake pans, I've noticed most brands sell 9.5" ones - given that you've mentioned the height of the cake will actually be lower, will a 9.5" pan make it even lower and how will baking times be affected?

Secondly - I have a silicon angel food pan which I haven't used yet, but am planning to make a chiffon cake. Will the pan be able to be turned upside down for cooling or will the cake fall out? Should I be using a knife to cut the cake out of the pan or will this damage the silicon pan? It is a one-piece and I guess I should have thought about all this before buying it!

Thanks so much
Daphne

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Rose Levy Beranbaum
Rose Levy Beranbaum
04/17/2006 02:19 PM

karen, i hope you have found this booklet that is now downloadable from this blog. it's under the tab at the left: equipment, new products.

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Karen A. DeVries
Karen A. DeVries
02/15/2006 04:28 PM

Rose,

I just bought 2 of your silicone 9.5 inch roung cake pans. They are the flexible non-stick ones. I have a future daughter-in-law that loves to make cakes and decorate them. The store where I bought them said there used to be a book that explained about how to use them, etc.

I know little about them and plan on giving them as a shower gift soon and would like to tell my future daughter-in-law about them.

Do you know of the book, or have any information I could give her?

Thank You!

Karen DeVries

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Anna
Anna
02/07/2006 07:42 PM

I have given thought to buying silicone bakeware. I wonder though about the "plastic." With all that's being said about teflon being carcinogenic, is silicone the next thing coming that's bad for us? Skeptical, I am...

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