Soaking Syrup for Layer Cakes
Feb 07, 2006 | From the kitchen of Rose
DAVID QUESTION
Does a soaking syrup to well on a devil's food cake?
ROSE REPLY
A small sprinkling of syrup will work, but I'm like a sponge cake, layer cakes become soggy/pasty with too much syrup.










Yasmin in reply to comment from woody
06/03/2011 01:44 AM
Thanks, Woody..I had a feeling that pure lemon juice would effect the ingredients, which is why I thought I'd ask :) Will try lemon oil as suggested by you. Haven't got RHC yet..will do soon.
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woody in reply to comment from Yasmin
06/03/2011 01:37 AM
Hi Yasmin,
If you have Rose's Heavenly cakes, take a look at the Woody Lemon Luxury Cake. The formulation is basically the Golden Luxury butter Cake (page 48) in the cake Bible with the addition of lemon zest. You can enhance the lemony flavor with adding some lemon oil. Maybe a 1/4 teaspoon to start and experiment to how much you want to use.
I would skip the lemon juice as a substitution as it will effect other ingredients including the leavening.
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Yasmin
06/02/2011 10:40 PM
Hi Rose. I read your comment recently on the Red velvet cake where you said that one could simply use one of your yellow or white cakes and substitute equal qty of fluid with a bottle of red food colouring. Could the same hold true of lemon juice? I want to try converting the Downy Yellow cake to a lemon cake by adding lemon zest to the batter..I wondered if I could decrease quarter cup milk and substitute with lemon juice?
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Rose Levy Beranbaum in reply to comment from Indy
06/02/2011 08:25 PM
indy, i've never heard of this but shouldn't be hard to do. syrups when brought to a high temperature solidify on cooling. you could check out the different stages of syrup and chose the hard crack stage or you could melt some hard candy and use that if you want a specific flavor.
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Indy
06/02/2011 08:21 PM
I ate a cake once that the baker told me was made by poking holes in the cake, a syrup was poured over the cake which when cooled produced little rivulets of crunchy candy-like flavor throughout the cake. Do you know of any recipes like this
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woody in reply to comment from sandyb
03/22/2011 12:04 AM
Hi Sandy,
What vanilla cake are you making?
Does the recipe suggest soaking with a syrup?
A simple syrup for soaking the cake is usually sugar dissolved in water or juice complimentary to the cake.
They are an essential part of a genoise cake to add moistness and sweetness that are not part of the cake's batter. For butter based cakes, the syrup is used either to add some sweetness and moistness as in the Golden Lemon Almond Cake or for wedding/event cakes where the cake is being made a couple of days ahead to keep it moist. In The Cake Bible there are syrups mainly for her genoise recipes while in Rose's Heavenly Cakes there are several cakes with accompanying syrups ranging from sweetened fruit juices to milk chocolate and cream and there formulas. In most cases the sugar component is dissolved in the liquid and the syrup heated to near boiling point.
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sandyb
03/19/2011 10:01 AM
I'm kind of new to cake decorating. I bake but I'm making a cake for a baby shower. What is simple syrup and what does it do? I want to make a vanilla cake with custard and strawberry filling.
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Rozanne
03/16/2008 10:26 PM
Kristina, sponge cakes (Genoise and Biscuit)need more syrup than butter cakes b/c they are dry and need the extra moisture. In fact syrup is mandatory for these types of sponge cakes. Butter cakes need very little or no syrup as they are more moist. If your butter cake was soggy after you brushed the syrup maybe it was moist enough by itself and didn't need any syrup or maybe you used too much of it. On pg 483 in the Cake Bible (US edition) Rose recommends "3 cups syrup for every 6 1/2 cups of sugar used to prepare the cake batter".
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kristina
03/16/2008 10:09 PM
Hi,
I am learning more and more about using simple syrup to keep cakes moist i made your chocolate butter cake and brushed a simple syrup pretty generously and it came out soggy...what is the rule of thumb on how much to soak a cake and do butter cakes need less than sponge....thanks.
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Rose
09/25/2007 08:39 PM
diane, i haven't written on cakes for many years so i think you need to check other books specializing in cake decorating.
kristine, i have the fruit soaking in cognac and it's in a ball canning jar. i can't vouch for sugar syrups plus alcohol but cognac is a high alcohol content and works.
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Kristine Purcell
09/25/2007 08:31 PM
13 years soaking. WOW! Are you able to soak dried fruit with other ingredients this long? I am thinking of adding brown sugar & white sugar mixed with boiling water to make a syrup, then adding rum. Maybe even adding a conserve (marmalade or ginger marmalade). And did your alcohol eat into what you stored it in?
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Diane
09/25/2007 07:17 PM
Is piping gel transfer the best way to write on a cake? In the Cake Bible there are more formal fonts, but when I create a computer generated design, I want the letters to look flawless...What do you suggest?
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Rose
09/25/2007 06:47 PM
i have some that's 13 years old!
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Kristine Purcell
09/24/2007 07:12 PM
What is the longest amount of time you can soak dried fruit in alcohol before making a fruit cake or plum pudding?
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Rose
05/14/2007 08:13 PM
i think just the raspberry purée and sauce would be really good.
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Liz
05/14/2007 07:44 PM
Hi Rose,
Since the Winter Blueberry Topping will not work, do you think the Raspberry Puree and Sauce would be ok to brush on each cake layer before torting with the buttercream?
Would you suggest also using a simple syrup, or just the Raspberry Puree?
Thanks!
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Liz
05/11/2007 04:50 PM
Thanks Rose... I'll try the syringe.
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Rose
05/08/2007 09:01 PM
all the recipes in the book have storage recommendations, for ex. (unfortunately) the blueberry topping says "keeps at room temp. 6 hours." that means it does not refrigerate or freeze well.
also in the book is my preferred method for applying syrup using a syringe. try it and see if you prefer it to brushing.
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Liz
05/08/2007 06:44 PM
Hello Rose,
I recently made your swan cake for a birthday party (I think that's what it is called... the White Chocolate Whisper cake with lemon buttercream and the Winter Blueberry topping.) IT WAS DELICIOUS!!! What a great combination of flavors. A bride-to-be who was at the party wants me to make it for her wedding.
Based on my very busy schedule coming up, I would need to bake the cake, fill and frost each of the three tiers, then freeze them fully completed and decorated for three weeks. Is this okay to do?
Also, I really want to incorporate the Winter Blueberry topping... I was thinking about using it instead of a simple syrup... brushing both sides of each cake layer with the blueberry topping before filling each tier with the lemon buttercream. Have you ever done this, or do you think it will work? Should I add a little blue food coloring, or do you think the blueberry topping will keep it's color being frozen for 3 weeks? Should I also use a simple syrup, or just the blueberry topping?
Also, what is your best techinique for applying simple syrup... I have heard everything from brushing it on, using a syringe, or even a spray bottle...???
Thank you for your help!!! I am just not sure what to tell the Bride...
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Rose
08/08/2006 09:15 AM
i assume you mean a fruit cake as other cakes don't last that long.
douse cheesecloth in rum and wrap it around the cake. then wrap it in plastic wrap and foil and store it in an airtight container. voila!
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Godfrey Gasefete
08/08/2006 08:32 AM
I would like to know how to soak a wedding cake. I have had it for the past 3 months.
thnkx
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Zachary
02/07/2006 04:30 PM
That makes since, as the level of moisture in layer cakes is already quite higher. As I mentioned, I'm looking for a good chocolate cake with great color that doesn't need soaking syrup....I wish I had time to make every recipe of chocolate cake that's out there. :) Zach
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